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You know, we've had all these serious things but Baba said that God had a sense of humor. He said how could I have ever lost my sense of humor? And I always like that. In fact that part of Baba attracted me and still attracts me very much.
I always used to think when I read stories about Jesus. They must have left something out and that's his sense of humor. He must have had as Avatar he must have had a sense of humor. It didn't record in the New Testament must have been up a Jesus joke, you know. Just like a Baba joke. Not so somber yes, and all these paintings and because in the stories about Mohammed the most recent Avatar there some wonderful little stories of Mohammed. I don't remember all, you know, I'm not that familiar with him, but he had a wonderful sense of humor. They're two very fine books. One of them I think is in the bookstore 'life of Mohammed there's so many touches like Baba himself, you know little senses of humor touches.
And I found that so appealing with Baba his smile is like he's just enjoying a tremendous joke. And one time this was again in the evening in 1952. We were with Baba and the women. Kitty was there, Margaret, lady mandali and Baba is favorite thing was to turn around and ask one of us to tell a joke.
And remember Ivy Duce did she had the she was smart. She had under her chair tipped away. The Reader's Digest. She could grab and read and I always had a terrible memory. *** and everybody else did pretty well and when it came to me, I just couldn't think of a joke and I can only think of a funny thing that happens.. I don't know whether to tell the joke, but it was it was that Baba always wanted us to kind of amuse him and his favorite people at times seem to be people that had a good way of telling a joke like Harry Kenmore and Marion Florsheim. They were very good at these quick jokes and one time Harry Kenmore told a joke. I'm no good at telling the jokes to say. I always forget the point so I won't but it was a little off color. It was a little off color. And I saw two people - are two or three people over there making faces. You don't tell Joke *** and Baba says Harry tell a joke again those people over there, didn't it.
You know, then another one who was very good at saying funny things. But Baba would he would not be in a serious mood. He may have gone into this other phase, you know where he's doing his Universal work and his face would get drawn. His fingers would work. You know, we all fall quiet, you know, heart rendering to see Baba face. Then it would suddenly change. Baba would turn right away to someone and ask them to tell a joke or a funny story or something to lighten his mood and Anita Villard was very good at that and I remember we went through a little moment like that and Baba turned to her like tell us something you know, and so she started to imitate Deliah. Eau de Cologne, you know. And whenever things were upsetting 'oh eau de cologne' Anita imitator and Baba laughed and then Anita said" oh she bought special panties for this trip Baba." They were *** red Baba with red lace. You don't *** with the women *** Baba *** eau de Cologne. They loved it.
And then when they put on this little performance. This is in 1956. They had the story of the alligator. And then that was very funny. And then they had something rather about the sanskara operation. They had Dana Field dressed as a baby in a baby carriage with the three doctors that were three doctors with us and they operate on his sanskaras and they pulled out of his tummy. You know, what how you get in these magic shops a whole roll of fake bologna, you know.
No, they kept pulling out always fake bologna. You know, that was the sanskara operations and Baba *** things like that. He just gentle and then in in 52, I had the fun of going to a movie with Baba. We were in the RCA Radio City Music Hall and the movie was a comedy it was Charlie's Aunt this old plastic and Ray Bolger here plays the part, you know he gets there's one sequence very great dresses as the aunt you know and drag and there's this old method of fellow follow me around trying to make passes him and Baba was chuckling. He was really chuckling. This is the funniest prank movie and I actually heard Baba chuckling. That was the only sound that ever heard from Baba of who can imagine. I think Kitty will bear me out that Baba didn't make sounds with his throat or cough or you know do this as you can imagine you might have to do with your throat. The silence was suffering, but he did chuckle at that movie and like to tell little jokes to like in this pork was the disciple how you spell een - e n i d and Baba says to her and said, she said something to Baba. Oh, you know, I don't know what like help me or something and Baba said when I take the eye out of *** that would be the end and there's something else about Adi saying to Baba when you know, Baba was probably giving a discourse about it in your heart you have to choose the good action rather bad action because we have so much bad sanskaras, you know, you have to balance them out with good.
So I just said that 'why don't you just take the o out of the good and then it's God. (laughing) And Baba said it wasn't quite that easy. But anyway when Baba was asking us all to tell jokes and we'd all tried our best then he said the whole universe is a joke. Sometimes a very sad joke, but it's a joke. And I always thinking about that you know. He said it's all a joke. And I personally have found the example of Baba enjoying the little amusing things. You can see that in the movies that his little joke when he threw prasad, you know, he would look at you very seriously throw prasad at you, but meanwhile he throwing it over it at you again to see them if you can catch it, you know, like a fake magic throw, you know. And you enjoy these little moments that humor is one way he shows you that humor is one way to take things to help you through life, you know, and I personally I enjoy people who have a little sense of humor the hardest people for me to get along with the people with have no sense of humor. I mean it's like that's the way we can stand a lot of things stand each other stand difficult situations. You know, there's a touch of humor bag. That's how he wants it. Thank God we can still laugh. I forget he's thinking special. But you know things all got bashed up by was like thank God we can still laugh and fact he calls a whole thing his Divine Lila his Divine Play and play.
Has many meanings, you know, there's a play on words. This child's play. There's a sense of playing an instrument play something very important. And of course in my career as a game designer plays been you know, my life work has been Child's Play, you know, it's what that's a joke. I make the bed and I wrote a book on there. How did this
I'm toys and I had a whole chapter on play and you know, there's so many serious books on play which is sort of a joke in itself, you know have always psychologist studying play and I often think of the theory of play the idea is that if a child doesn't play it gets into serious psychological difference. Sometimes people would accuse us, you know, wasting our time with toys and things and
And however, they have found that if a child doesn't play and sometimes play aggressively, you know, the toy gun, you know, we're always criticized the toy gun or a little war game who had him. They don't act out these aggressions. They repress them and then grow up with serious problems apply as a very very important thing for chow, and I noticed in all the stories of Baba's work with them on delay. He always gave tremendous amount of time to play to playing
Aims to playing Cricket the playing you saw his own checkerboard. He said so many nice things about toys and games. That's what pleased me said. You know, I play marbles with the universe and then he's there's in the everything the nothing. There's a little discourse on my favorite toy.
And his favorite toy see he likes everything. He likes the gist of it and she likes everything and everything has its place but he may just like a child have a favorite toy and there's no reason you know for that favorite toys just his thing. He has a favorite toy and therefore nobody should criticize him if he has a favorite toy, which means lack of favorite plaything.
Or person I you feel if I was talking about some special people that are his favorites just like a child has favorites God has favorites and I like that little talk fun toys. We are at Baba's toys just think that you know, he's playing with the universe and like a child is sent children have a natural sense of humor. I think the worst thing you can do to child is repressed that sense of play and in
Education, you know, if you don't let children free to play that's probably where they get terribly bored with education. And you know, I feel real strong about that. But I saw Baba using the sense of play in the sense of humor as his work his way of working and to me that was very important part of bother his sense of fun and like he would
He's a great actor. Of course the greatest actor and he loved to imitate people and in fact, he seemed to have instead of a name for you. He might imitate little gesture of this and we had for example, there's a Sufi Fred pray and he has the eye thing like that. So so instead of calling for Fred Prego.
He had a little speech difficulty good good good so bad like that. Let me run for Janssen and 110 Baba imitated me a couple times by have imitated me. I was sitting there and I was going like this suddenly I noticed everyone else is absurd giggling and smiling. There's Bobby's imitated.
And another time in the barn and Myrtle Beach. We had a chance to go up for his dharshan one by one and the barn is as big as this building at least and we had to cross it all on this bare floors seemed like you were crossing a million desert Cena and there's bobbins Cherokee and I was walking and walking huh? And again, I hear always laughter behind me and Baba is smiling.
And I was walking, you know, kind of swinging along and Baba was going like this and and when Barbara told us a story he acted out all the parts. I remember how he told the story of moms. Sorry and the snake which monthsary tails and Baba was was one sorry and he was a snake.
When Barbra sighs did that Snake Eyes I tell you it's just unbelievable they have system.
So I love that part of her Baba and I'm sure the Avatar every time it comes as a great great sense of humor. And what else can I tell her that anybody got any favorite some things about me Detective?
I went to the pigs it was seasoned services.
What their role is?
Oh, my name is Baby.
She has that twinkle in the eye and ask its didn't he really nice.
That's if I was you I would break the sounds does he need a microphone?
One of the nicest jokes in my next issue of the awakener. I researched Baba is stays in Hollywood and his work with the film and I got real amused by except we found in the newspaper archives the original interviews with lava with the press in 1932.
In 1935 and Baba is promising to in an interview said he's going to come back to Hollywood and break his silence and the Hollywood Bowl introduced over the radio by Mary Pickford. I just love to him and then I could just imagine and then later on in nasik 7s Baba about that. He said just imagine you believe in.
Sort of
I'll repeat the story cuz kitties voices having little raspiness. She said that the early days in London Barbara was there and he asked Kitty to look up some Hall and which he the biggest haul in which he could break the silence and she went and asked the rates and the times and it was the Albert Hall and some other Hall to she investigated and the
The Albert Hall was the biggest and they gave her the rates and it was a little cheaper in the afternoon. She goes back to Baba and Baba has said he would let her know in the morning and if if he would use it he say and then in the morning, of course, he said no he changed his mind about breaking his silence, but it's sort of interesting. I'll post bonus. I'll postpone it. That's the must have the correct way.
Yeah at one time my experience with Joe Pine was really above a humoristic maybe some of you remember Joe Pines program here in Los Angeles. He had this program when he would interview people and his specialty was hacking at them and making them feel uncomfortable and you know, and he'd had two people of opposing opinions on so that get fighting and everything and anyone.
Way I get a call one day is from the producer of The Joe Poncho. And he says I want to speak to Mayor Baba. And I said well Sarah is not here is in India can't speak to him and oh, oh well, would he come and break his silence? I said he's silent and then he said oh when he come and break his silence on our show.
I said well no, I don't think so. Then they invited me on this show and that was really a just I only did it with Baba was Grace to be on this terrible chef. And actually I you know, I was taping the show they taped one in front of me. This woman had gone to Russia just two halves wife has gone to Russia come back and written a book that the Russians were kind of nice people.
No, so he had her on the show with with a John Bircher the head of the John Birch Society. I said mother awful time and he was just making her hysterical your red because he went to Russia. You said people were nice there, you know, and she was getting hysterical, you know, and he loved and you know, and I was watching that I said I'm not going to do that so first
I had promised them. He said, you know, I had a little interview with him before I said would you come on my show and state that you have met God in human form? I said, yes, of course. And so that was how he introduced me. This is the lady who says who believe that she met God in human form. So that started that was okay, but then he started needling me, you know and got into reincarnation and
Everything and then this is what he did was really maddening. He held up. I had the awakener there and write suddenly he held up his picture fava and said does this look like the face of God, you know, and I was
Like that lady and the strange thing was that right after that Joe Pine got very sick and never he had to fill in his program. So he was running my shows a half hour. I'm here Baba over and over and over again was run eight times in love.
People I remember years later going somewhere and like to the museum and this I had a baba button on a smaller, you know, not a big one a guard way over there. Mr. Dreier dies came out anything. That's me about is it
It's said I saw him on the Joe Pyne show that face for one minute that he held up. You see he didn't really know what he was trying to make fun of them. And even that way Papa got his messages and on television.
Yeah, I have to take it was in the 60s. It was 66 or something. So I experience with Delphine. Yeah.
And and great minds like when they asked him all these questions was Jesus is son of God and it's what's his name the fellow Pleasant? Yeah, I turned around. Yes, and so is Boudin and so scription and so as he mentioned Dimension the advertisers with Mohammed Ali said from is just a really great great life.
- yeah, the humor was wonderful and I sometimes think of the film, you know, we all have these rather solemn ideas of Baba's movie, you know, that will move the world Baba movie, but it might be just a real fantastic comedy.
Oh, yeah, that was so great. I was just yeah, they've been several movies lately then attach them and you know, we're working up to it when somebody said today, you know, Baba will manifest. I think one thing that may we don't know just anything about it, but I've have not had the thought that one way that
It's suddenly ignite the mass is to her Baba. It isn't the books the books now are very widely distributed in bookstores. They've been posters buttons talks everything. I personally feel that Baba will make use of the biggest Mass medium of film and the Rasam film. I don't know why or how or what whether it be made by Baba people not but it would have something in it that Baba would work through in such a way that it was just suddenly hit the nerve.
Remember everything it wouldn't it wouldn't be the record because we have you know, a lot of problems recording so you have Tommy The Rock off but it would be some Mass film thing that might just ignite a tremendous interest in God.
Many incarnations
Yes, and and some of the scripts are working up to that, you know some of the close encounters and Reincarnation of Peters inviting and Audrey Rose and you know, they're getting into I only feel that now Hollywood is interested only in the negative side of some of these spiritual facts of reincarnation AstroWorld not
I think that someday though, you know, it'll slowly tune or else some genius will come along no make this ultimate breakthrough in the film and then we can have real Baba feels, you know more of them and as there's someone in the audience now, it's working out about them Liam. Where are you Liam is Liam is working on a major Hollywood epic called the premise room. Anyway, he's working along those lines and
And and so many it's Kitty said so many today at working slowly toward acquiring of interesting.
Sweetie, honey
I don't think about you know putting down in any way other people's groups and movements because they're breaking ground to the belief in reincarnation and Karma and you know, their teachings they'll compare with Baba of there's kind of softening up the soil, you know of the whole Humanity like Life Magazine. This was several years ago that six years ago took a survey of how many people believe in reincarnation.
Nation, and it was like 45% of the population of the United States believe in reincarnation that was quite a few years ago without benefit of clergy. I don't know any major denomination that teachers it. I don't know any major college that you know teaches that our scientists or anything. This is strictly coming from underneath like a Groundswell belief through popular interest and search. So this is beginning to happen in the same with parapsychology life.
After death now is a big thing and Baba is breaking up this, you know, the intellectual cliches that we all live with so long and when that soil is broken up enough then you know, the artistic use of those ideas could become come through. Yeah.
Remember I read about that somewhere a lot of people people but now talk about their experiences of you know, death and dying and things that they would have never.
Ever spoken about before it's like the intellectual climate has changed. Like when I first came to Baba to even say you were interested in daughter even say you had any kind of a psychic experience or anything you were branded, you know, either a psychotic or like one woman said at my talk. I said something about you know, seeing things over to know every schizophrenic before they have an attack. They see lights and colors.
Or the Freudian, you know, you don't have a good sex. Laughs. Yeah, whatever. It's something wrong with you have experiences, but the whole world is changed now, they want people they want to study it and this is part of Baba's work to we as Baba lovers concentrate so much on the spiritual side. We don't see what's happening out there in the intellectual world, and it's just amazing. I got a
A request I get requests from universities for information about Baba about the movies about so on. I got a whole catalog catalog this big from the University of Washington on information only audio-visual at is movies and video tapes material on Eastern thought and there's this giant library of audio-visual material on the
Fe and teachings of the East that is Buddhism Hinduism Oriental mysticism here Baba and so on they circulate this so that anybody can rent a film on any of these subjects or rent videotapes or slides just tremendous amount of information and that is really a breakthrough in a college that they would work on that and of all the magazine inner paths now, I'm sure many of you have seen that one of the major
Breakthroughs in the Journal journalistic World the editor is very friendly meant body in New York and got his permission to print one of Baba's discourses every month the first article in the book and beautiful photographs from Hermes and it's just amazing, you know his friendliness to yeah speaks it some class at UCLA because it was no longer used textbooks.
I've got a Critic see the clock one. No funny experience happened to me when I was unemployed. I had to go theoretically every day and look for a job in toy business. Well, they're about three toy companies in Los Angeles, so I had to kind of fake it alone. So I applied for a job at a place where you write Theses you.
Up to the rich text call it research but actually sit down write the thesis for people can't do it, you know, and these college students come and buy that these and Chris when I found out it wasn't strictly legal I refused but they had a giant catalog of Theses that you could buy that it already been written and their catalogs, you know that look just for fun and a religion and philosophy and there you could buy a paper on the philosophy of Mayor Bible $30.
I didn't have thirty dollars and thank you very much.
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